[identity profile] eta-ta.livejournal.com 2008-09-13 06:26 pm (UTC)(link)
That's what you call "not talking"?
and why, exactly?
is talking about elections (and your choice of sources who do talk shows the side you're on, anyway, so why bother to appear NOT talking?) could in any way damage your prospects in this country? Or you have some other reasons I can't imagine?

[identity profile] cema.livejournal.com 2008-09-14 03:21 am (UTC)(link)
Well, I said I can't.

Although in reality this particular posting was not so much about elections as about their coverage, a meta-discussion. But it leaks into the discussion.

is talking about elections [...] could in any way damage your prospects in this country?
No, I don't think that is imaginable at all. It's just that I hate to see how reasonable people turn into... Rephrasing: I hate to see what some of the normally reasonable people tend to turn into. It's like the elections season appears to be for humans what the mating season is alleged to be for male elephants: a period of temporary madness.

[identity profile] eta-ta.livejournal.com 2008-09-14 03:48 am (UTC)(link)
I see. Well, you're entitled to your observations/opinions, naturally. Personally, even discounting to possible flaws and components in one party's platform, I think current election doesn't really leave much room for ambiguity between evaluation of either party' behavior.
For me, anyway.
Or maybe it's because I don't have personal friends (in LJ, at least) who are ardent supporters of socialist Demparty. By "friends" I mean the English dictionary definition, not the LJ parlance.

[identity profile] cema.livejournal.com 2008-09-14 04:06 am (UTC)(link)
Oh, I have an opinion or two of my own, just want to avoid flagging them out. Not the season.

[identity profile] mme-n-b.livejournal.com 2008-09-14 04:15 am (UTC)(link)
Do you mean something like a normally clear-thinking guy posting without checking either the source or the assumptions?

[identity profile] cema.livejournal.com 2008-09-14 04:40 am (UTC)(link)
Yes, and becoming so emotional about it, and so pathetically self-righteous.

:)

[identity profile] mme-n-b.livejournal.com 2008-09-14 04:42 pm (UTC)(link)
Oh. Now I get it. Please accept my sincerest apologies.

Re: :)

[identity profile] cema.livejournal.com 2008-09-15 01:33 am (UTC)(link)
:-)

(Anonymous) 2008-09-13 06:39 pm (UTC)(link)
А почему она согласилась с ABC беседовать, а не с FOX'ом?

[identity profile] cema.livejournal.com 2008-09-14 03:23 am (UTC)(link)
The difference between ABC and FOX is somewhat exaggerated. In any case, it's not my call.

[identity profile] panikowsky.livejournal.com 2008-09-13 07:18 pm (UTC)(link)
Красиво!

[identity profile] http://users.livejournal.com/_rowan_tree_/ 2008-09-13 07:37 pm (UTC)(link)
I am confused. I've read the quotes from the interview that the article claims were edited out. Like the part that starts with "What I think is that smaller democratic countries that are invaded by a larger power is something for us to be vigilant against"... and further "It doesn’t have to lead to war and it doesn’t have to lead, as I said, to a Cold War, but economic sanctions, diplomatic pressure"... This was all over the news, no?

What's up with that?

[identity profile] mme-n-b.livejournal.com 2008-09-13 11:07 pm (UTC)(link)
Easy - someone is lying. If you look at the newsbusters site their political preferences are obvious. Their integrity is less so.

[identity profile] http://users.livejournal.com/_rowan_tree_/ 2008-09-14 01:35 am (UTC)(link)
But such an obvious lie? I suppose they don't expect their readers to remember things from one day to the next. I wonder who is their target audience...

[identity profile] mme-n-b.livejournal.com 2008-09-14 02:35 am (UTC)(link)
Political lies are generally obvious. They don't respect anyone, and for a reason. As for the target audience, I shouldn't like to say anything just here. If you know what I mean.

[identity profile] http://users.livejournal.com/_rowan_tree_/ 2008-09-14 03:12 am (UTC)(link)
I understand :-)
Political lies are not always obvious, some people do it cleaner (with more respect and/or more brain involved, I suppose). Although, of course, a better job is not required if an average one does the trick :-(

[identity profile] cema.livejournal.com 2008-09-14 03:24 am (UTC)(link)
As for the target audience, I shouldn't like to say anything just here. If you know what I mean.

:-)

I don't!

[identity profile] mme-n-b.livejournal.com 2008-09-14 04:14 am (UTC)(link)
Don't worry about it, I love and respect you anyway :))))

[identity profile] cema.livejournal.com 2008-09-14 04:38 am (UTC)(link)
:-)

[identity profile] mont-green.livejournal.com 2008-09-13 08:10 pm (UTC)(link)
на сайте ABC все есть.

[identity profile] cema.livejournal.com 2008-09-14 03:26 am (UTC)(link)
Ура.

[identity profile] mme-n-b.livejournal.com 2008-09-13 11:04 pm (UTC)(link)
Some of the bolded lines were quoted in Slate as having been shown on ABC, so I suspect something's off in the presentation. But that aside - the whole interview, as given, is enough to make one prefer anyone to Palin, even Nader.

[identity profile] cema.livejournal.com 2008-09-14 03:26 am (UTC)(link)
It's not about Palin versus other candidates, it's about the presentation and journalistic integrity. I hope.

[identity profile] mme-n-b.livejournal.com 2008-09-14 04:13 am (UTC)(link)
Hmmm... I think you picked a horrible example of journalistic integrity...

[identity profile] cema.livejournal.com 2008-09-14 04:37 am (UTC)(link)
That's the point.

[identity profile] xaxam.livejournal.com 2008-09-14 04:57 am (UTC)(link)
The definition of integrity depends on the choice of the underlying ring ;-) The journalist ring is notorious for abundance of factured skulls, jaws etc.

[identity profile] cema.livejournal.com 2008-09-14 05:38 am (UTC)(link)
No so merry any more! :-)