Katrina recap

[cema]

Is this what we need police for? [justoneminute]

And how much of all this was racist based and who was responsible is still unclear. It seems there is a lot of blame shifting here, and no wonder.

Comments

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Here a take on this story (forgive me, Cema, for referencing a left-wing blog on your pages).

There are two census maps in that story: household income and vehicles per household. The maps are by "census tract", whatever that means.

The point of the abovementioned post, as supported by the maps is that the the household income in Gretna (mostly $30-40K) does not necessarily make it an affluent place. It looks more like a mostly white (60+% to about 27%, I think - can try to find the reference if needed) blue-collar suburb of New Orleans. There isn't a significant class difference there.

How about white and poor vs. black and poor?

[cema.livejournal.com]

Should be: "forgive me, O Cema..." I wonder btw if Andrew Sullivan is considered lefty or righty.

I do not know if there is more racism among the poor or among the rich. I am also not sure if there is more racism among the whites or blacks.

[email-animal.livejournal.com]

Sullivan started out as conservative. Liberals clearly don't consider him to be one of "theirs". Neither does he, I believe, consider himself a lefty.
For obvious reasons his social views are much more liberal than those of other fiscal conservatives.

I do not know if there is more racism among the poor or among the rich.

Are you going for a general discussion here? Then the answer might be "yes".

I am also not sure if there is more racism among the whites or blacks.

Again, in general, possibly, there is enough of it on both sides. The question is who gets to act it out more often (and by "act it out" I do not mean gangsta rap).

[cema.livejournal.com]

The answer is indeed "yes": I do not know. :-)

You mean, there is too much on both sides. I think the very fact that there are the two sides may be a bigger problem.

[email-animal.livejournal.com]

hate, as you know, begets hate.

[cema.livejournal.com]

But sometimes it's worse, when it pours out in the form of violence. In which case on ehas to use force to resist.