1) what does "advancing women's equality" mean, in this day and age? what did Palin not do as a governor towards this end that she should have done? I think they're allowed to vote in Alaska, btw.
2) if somebody self-identifies as a member of a political movement, who are you to deny their self-identification?
1) Oh please, don't get me started - equality does not begin or end with the right to vote or did you miss the point of the American civil rights movement? How about supporting paid maternity AND paternity leave. How about supporting affordable, quality child care FOR ALL. How about supporting equal pay for equal work. How about supporting sex ed and easy access to contraceptives for teenagers. She didn't even support that for her own daughter, evidently. I could go on and on.
2) Last time I checked, I live in a country where I am free to express my opinion about any public figure I please. If the CEO of Shell Oil gets up and calls himself an environmentalist, I have every right to call bullshit. The notion that Sarah Palin is a feminist is bullshit.
1) If you see rights as "goods and services that people are owed," then we have a disagreement which goes way beyond whether Sarah Palin is a feminist. Leaving the issue of whether paternity leave is a women's rights issue, maternity leave and child care are not free. So when you say that women have a RIGHT to them, you're saying that all employers have a RESPONSIBILITY to provide them. Thus, you're making employing a woman an automatically dicey proposition for any business, especially any small business. You're imposing additional operating costs on them, and limiting their margin of profitability. Thus, you're providing a disincentive to employing women and keeping jobs in the US. The alternative is that businesses do employ women and keep jobs in the US, but raise their prices. Even assuming that you could pass some kind of legislation forcing all of them to operate this way (and remember, if one business keeps its prices low by not employing women or exporitng jobs, all the others will be driven out of operation,) you're passing the cost of your "rights" on to everybody else. So, in effect, men and women that either don't want to have children or take care of their own kids are going to be forced to pay for your reproductive success. This is not equality for women-it is privilege for some women at the expense of everybody else.
Equal pay for equal time is a ludicrous slogan. Women who dedicate the same amount of time and education to their work get paid the same amount or more as their male colleagues. Women who have made the choice to take time out of their career and education to address their reproductive desires make less. This is only fair. Why don't you worry about the gap in spending power instead? In other words, while women may earn less money than men, they decide how much more of it is spent. Or you could worry about how divorce courts systematically oppress men in this country, with men routinely being denied access to their children and forced to subsidize their ex-wives lifestyles. You don't want equal rights, you want female privilege.
2) You are free to express any opinion you want, no matter how dumb or unfounded it may be. Anybody else has every right to call bullshit on your opinions. You've got a lot of hubris setting arbitraty criteria on what qualifies somebody to consider themselves an adherent of any given ideology, then calling them "indisputable."
Sarah Palin has done more to make women respected for their accomplishments than any three living female politicians in America you could name. She did not ride to power by compromising her principles, or on a man's coattails. And she has acquitted herself pretty well in an executive position, with very real consequences flowing from her decisions. What is it that you do for a living? Let me guess, something in the legal field?
Why, he could be more wrong. He could have guessed you were working in mines or in a circus, I say that would be more wrong. OK, would not fit stereotypes, I guess...
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2) if somebody self-identifies as a member of a political movement, who are you to deny their self-identification?
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:-)
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2) Last time I checked, I live in a country where I am free to express my opinion about any public figure I please. If the CEO of Shell Oil gets up and calls himself an environmentalist, I have every right to call bullshit. The notion that Sarah Palin is a feminist is bullshit.
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Equal pay for equal time is a ludicrous slogan. Women who dedicate the same amount of time and education to their work get paid the same amount or more as their male colleagues. Women who have made the choice to take time out of their career and education to address their reproductive desires make less. This is only fair. Why don't you worry about the gap in spending power instead? In other words, while women may earn less money than men, they decide how much more of it is spent. Or you could worry about how divorce courts systematically oppress men in this country, with men routinely being denied access to their children and forced to subsidize their ex-wives lifestyles. You don't want equal rights, you want female privilege.
2) You are free to express any opinion you want, no matter how dumb or unfounded it may be. Anybody else has every right to call bullshit on your opinions. You've got a lot of hubris setting arbitraty criteria on what qualifies somebody to consider themselves an adherent of any given ideology, then calling them "indisputable."
Sarah Palin has done more to make women respected for their accomplishments than any three living female politicians in America you could name. She did not ride to power by compromising her principles, or on a man's coattails. And she has acquitted herself pretty well in an executive position, with very real consequences flowing from her decisions. What is it that you do for a living? Let me guess, something in the legal field?
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just trying to satisfy my personal curiosity, is all-I'll answer questions about what I do for a living, if anybody cares
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/end flame war.
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wait, maybe I'll just go have some veal, instead
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(I know what you trying to do. It's a good guess, but you are a bit off.)
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