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Thursday, June 20th, 2002 03:52 am
Tried to copy-n-paste the following string from yudit to mozilla: "Hello, shalom, zdraste" with "shalom" in Hebrew and "zdraste" in Russian. Result:

---x---
‬, здрасте

‮שלומ

Hello,
---x---

Fuck! It does not seem to properly process some (but not all!) BiDi directives. the result is what you can (?) read here. May be mozilla's fault too.

Oh no. :-)

Update: Yes, must be Mozilla. Opera does not understand BiDi, apparently, and happily writes

---x---
Hello, ‮שלומ‬, здрасте!
---x---

It also shows "strange" characters on both sides of the ‮שלומ‬ thing. Which means that Yudit must have put them there.

Hmm.
Thursday, June 20th, 2002 01:29 am (UTC)
Now consider this ("more," was written in reverse):

---x---
hello, тАоmore,тАм final
---x---

I don't know what to think. Time to turn in.
Thursday, June 20th, 2002 06:12 am (UTC)
В конце слова "шалом" должна быть мэм софит.
Thursday, June 20th, 2002 09:54 pm (UTC)
I know, but I did not know how to find it on the keyboard. My point was not to learn how to write Hebrew, but how to write BiDi. :-)

It seems what is not working is the text entry form. Even if I paste Hebrew separately -- ‮עברית

-- but the rest is garbage.

As I said, fuck! :-)

Thursday, June 20th, 2002 02:33 pm (UTC)
Cema,

Sorry for off-topic... how can I post to Rus DC LJ? Or may I? :)

Looks like we gotta set a firm time for the party and let people disagree - otherwise we can be BS-ing forever. For instance:

"Russian DC LJ users party will be held on Sunday, June 23, at 2 pm, at one of the curbside tables at FoodBar, corner of 17th and R, NW, DC. Invited: all Russian LJ users that can make it, members of their households (regardless of the number of legs), other Russian friends at the discretion of LJ users.

Wrong time? Wrong place? Please let us know ASAP with DETAILED counterproposals"

Tipa vot...
Thursday, June 20th, 2002 10:02 pm (UTC)
To post in a community, become its member. Click on the icon in [livejournal.com profile] ru_dc and then click on the words "join this community" or some such. (There is no special button for this; UI is a bit inconsistent.)

The rest is here...
(Anonymous)
Saturday, June 22nd, 2002 04:56 am (UTC)
В каталоге /etc/X11/xkb/symbols есть файл il. Я сделал его копию под именем il_group3 (в том же каталоге) и в ней изменил строку Group2 на Group3. После этого, кажется, нужно один раз запустить "xkbseldb -R" (как root).

В файле конфигурации X в секции клавиатуры у меня стоит:

   Option "XkbKeycodes"   "xfree86"
   Option "XkbTypes"   "default"
   Option "XkbCompat"  "group_led"
   Option "XkbSymbols" "us(pc102)+ru(winkeys)+il_group3(basic)+group(alt_shift_toggle)+group(switch)"

Теперь я могу переключать клавиатуру между английским, ивритом и русским, нажимая . Можно писать прямо в Мозилле на любом из этих языков. Лампочка scroll lock загорается когда клавиатура не английская.

У [livejournal.com profile] trurle на сайте есть файл для "фонетической" русской раскладки, но я им не пользуюсь.

Иерусалимский-Обломов.

Saturday, June 22nd, 2002 01:58 pm (UTC)
Спасибо. Я уже присматривался.

А yudit вроде хорош и сам по себе, да вот только...