cema: (dpolon)
cema ([personal profile] cema) wrote2005-11-15 01:59 am

Condy versus Hillary

The disagreements and problems that dogged Miss Rice's trip were in stark contrast to the experience of Hillary Clinton, the US Senator and wife of President Bill Clinton, who was visiting Israel at the same time.

Mrs Clinton, who is widely tipped as the next Democrat candidate for the White House, was well received at a number of events
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Has the campaign started already? Condoleeza Rice versus Hillary Clinton? Catfight! Catfight!

Update. Funny thing, most of the people who replied belong to the right of the political spectrum. What about the left, progressive, democratic side? Aren't they looking forward to see Hillary versus Condy? Or, in case a catfight does not appeal to them, maybe they could suggest something more exciting? I may have a couple of ideas.

Update. Finally, a solid, I would say definitely progressive plan!

[identity profile] lindagraciela.livejournal.com 2005-11-15 07:19 am (UTC)(link)
Are you serious? Mrs. Clinton who is widely tipped can run, of course, but no way she'll be the next President!

[identity profile] cema.livejournal.com 2005-11-15 07:32 am (UTC)(link)
I am not saying she will be elected. But look at what the newspaper is writing. See?

[identity profile] kroha376.livejournal.com 2005-11-15 07:38 am (UTC)(link)
There are three people who could defeat Hillary Clinton in my opinion: Rudy Giuliani, John McCain, and Condoleezza Rice. Anybody else - and Hillary is the next President.

[identity profile] arbat.livejournal.com 2005-11-15 01:03 pm (UTC)(link)
Not really. Hillary is may be the biggest vote-getter for the Republicans one can imagine.

[identity profile] cema.livejournal.com 2005-11-16 04:23 am (UTC)(link)
Democrats too. And it will be so exciting! Catfight!

:-)

Oh no!

[identity profile] solomon2.livejournal.com 2005-11-15 07:43 am (UTC)(link)
Hitlery will eat Condi for breakfast. Condi is a non-starter.

[identity profile] solomon2.livejournal.com 2005-11-15 08:40 am (UTC)(link)
Hill is a political shark, a person of establishment, with tons of money and the whole leftist media machine behind her. Even Rudy had chickened out of going against Hill mano-o-mano. Condi is just a poor black girl at heart with no connections, who never even tried to run for a public office. Besides she is single - a disqualifying factor more important than her race.

[identity profile] cema.livejournal.com 2005-11-15 08:45 am (UTC)(link)
I agree, the fight would be uphill for Condy. All the more interesting!

I say, catfight!

[identity profile] anhinga-anhinga.livejournal.com 2005-11-15 03:10 pm (UTC)(link)
The idea is quite old and aesthetically attractive :-)

On the other hand, Hillary as the next President... poor country...

> the fight would be uphill for Condy

upHill

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[identity profile] ge-m.livejournal.com 2005-11-15 12:34 pm (UTC)(link)
Even Rudy had chickened out of going against Hill mano-o-mano.

Are you talking about the NY senator's race? So you do not believe that he had his cancer treatment at the time? I thought it was a true reason to drop out.

[identity profile] arbat.livejournal.com 2005-11-15 12:37 pm (UTC)(link)
Whatever it was, he is talking about a pre-911 Rudi running in New York against a pre-911 Hillary. BTW, even then her win was not certain.

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[identity profile] arbat.livejournal.com 2005-11-15 12:35 pm (UTC)(link)
Can you imagine any person who did not vote for Kerry, but will vote for Hillary? Can you imagine someone who voted for Bush, but will stay home when Hillary is on the ballot?

If the war is considered as mostly won and a non-issue, Hillary running for President - will be the only thing that may get Republican voters to vote in numbers.

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[identity profile] wall4.livejournal.com 2005-11-16 01:34 am (UTC)(link)
Конди порвала бы Клинтониху, как тузик тряпку в дебатах. Но, к сожалению, это бы ей не помогло в выборах...

[identity profile] cema.livejournal.com 2005-11-16 04:29 am (UTC)(link)
Дебаты не имеют особенного значения, как правило. Вот если бы их на ринг, вот тогда...

:-)

[identity profile] syarzhuk.livejournal.com 2005-11-18 08:19 pm (UTC)(link)
Керри в дебатах порвал Кустова. Не помогло

[identity profile] wall4.livejournal.com 2005-11-18 09:42 pm (UTC)(link)
You right - it's unpredictable

[identity profile] cema.livejournal.com 2005-11-19 12:47 am (UTC)(link)
It is unpredictable in the sense that their results do not predict elections. However, the debates themselves can often be predicted well: obviously Bush cannot talk, so he would lose debates almost to anyone. Hillary and Condy is a different matter, each has her strengths. Would be nice to watch.

But not so nice as a catfight!

[identity profile] cema.livejournal.com 2005-11-19 12:45 am (UTC)(link)
Дебаты, на самом деле, не имеют большого значения. Насколько я помню, первый раз они сработали несколько неожиданным образом: JFK оказался куда более телегеничным, чем Никсон, и последний пролетел. Похоже, они нужны только для того, чтобы найти побольше поводов придраться к тому или иному кандидату (или, скорее, к обоим).

Другое дело catfight. Вот где есть просто кандидатам развернуться! В смысле, кандидаткам! Уж они себя покажут! :-)

[identity profile] anhinga-anhinga.livejournal.com 2005-11-17 08:19 pm (UTC)(link)
> What about the left, progressive, democratic side?

I'll happily go back to the "left, progressive, democratic" side [where are my left-wing colors?]. I don't have any attachment to "the right" ;-) I just don't like Hillary, although a catfight does appeal to me ;-)

> I may have a couple of ideas

OK, give us your ideas ;-)

[identity profile] cema.livejournal.com 2005-11-17 11:19 pm (UTC)(link)
I counted you among the left side, or else it would have been 100% pure right-wing!

As for my ideas, they are not very original.

[identity profile] anhinga-anhinga.livejournal.com 2005-11-17 11:25 pm (UTC)(link)
> I counted you among the left side

Good!

[identity profile] cema.livejournal.com 2005-11-18 12:40 am (UTC)(link)
Myself being in the center, of course. :-)

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[identity profile] syarzhuk.livejournal.com 2005-11-18 08:22 pm (UTC)(link)
Here's my "uniting, not dividing" plan again:
Step 1. Hillary gets a divorce from Bill
Step 2. Hillary and Condi move to MA
Step 3. Hillary and Condi get married.
Step 4. Hillary and Condi run for office on a bipartisan platform - they decide themselves who is the presidential and who is vice-presidential candidate. Or they can switch every 3 months, if they feel like it. Everyone votes for them, the country is united, and they happily live ever after.

[identity profile] cema.livejournal.com 2005-11-19 12:51 am (UTC)(link)
This is indeed a very promising plan. Both for the country and for the candidates whose personal life does not appear to be sufficiently satisfactory lately. I just have one problem with it: what, no catfights?