Tuesday, November 15th, 2005 01:59 am
The disagreements and problems that dogged Miss Rice's trip were in stark contrast to the experience of Hillary Clinton, the US Senator and wife of President Bill Clinton, who was visiting Israel at the same time.

Mrs Clinton, who is widely tipped as the next Democrat candidate for the White House, was well received at a number of events
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Has the campaign started already? Condoleeza Rice versus Hillary Clinton? Catfight! Catfight!

Update. Funny thing, most of the people who replied belong to the right of the political spectrum. What about the left, progressive, democratic side? Aren't they looking forward to see Hillary versus Condy? Or, in case a catfight does not appeal to them, maybe they could suggest something more exciting? I may have a couple of ideas.

Update. Finally, a solid, I would say definitely progressive plan!
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Tuesday, November 15th, 2005 07:19 am (UTC)
Are you serious? Mrs. Clinton who is widely tipped can run, of course, but no way she'll be the next President!
Tuesday, November 15th, 2005 07:32 am (UTC)
I am not saying she will be elected. But look at what the newspaper is writing. See?
Tuesday, November 15th, 2005 07:38 am (UTC)
There are three people who could defeat Hillary Clinton in my opinion: Rudy Giuliani, John McCain, and Condoleezza Rice. Anybody else - and Hillary is the next President.
Tuesday, November 15th, 2005 07:43 am (UTC)
Hitlery will eat Condi for breakfast. Condi is a non-starter.
Tuesday, November 15th, 2005 08:08 am (UTC)
But why?
Tuesday, November 15th, 2005 08:40 am (UTC)
Hill is a political shark, a person of establishment, with tons of money and the whole leftist media machine behind her. Even Rudy had chickened out of going against Hill mano-o-mano. Condi is just a poor black girl at heart with no connections, who never even tried to run for a public office. Besides she is single - a disqualifying factor more important than her race.
Tuesday, November 15th, 2005 08:45 am (UTC)
I agree, the fight would be uphill for Condy. All the more interesting!

I say, catfight!
Tuesday, November 15th, 2005 12:34 pm (UTC)
Even Rudy had chickened out of going against Hill mano-o-mano.

Are you talking about the NY senator's race? So you do not believe that he had his cancer treatment at the time? I thought it was a true reason to drop out.
Tuesday, November 15th, 2005 12:35 pm (UTC)
Can you imagine any person who did not vote for Kerry, but will vote for Hillary? Can you imagine someone who voted for Bush, but will stay home when Hillary is on the ballot?

If the war is considered as mostly won and a non-issue, Hillary running for President - will be the only thing that may get Republican voters to vote in numbers.
Tuesday, November 15th, 2005 12:37 pm (UTC)
Whatever it was, he is talking about a pre-911 Rudi running in New York against a pre-911 Hillary. BTW, even then her win was not certain.
Tuesday, November 15th, 2005 12:58 pm (UTC)
No, people, I do not know what you are talking about. I am probably missing something.
In my picture:
Judy was the mayor of NYC till 2002. In 2002 he was going to be on the ballot for NY senator against Hillary. That was their first fight and I know nothing about any other pre-911 (i.e. pre-2001) races. Till the moment when he was diagnosed with the cancer he was running in the full steam. After the diagnose he claimed that he needed private time, time to cure, etc. Which I bought as the truth back then.
What do I miss?
Tuesday, November 15th, 2005 01:01 pm (UTC)
"What do I miss?"

Only the fact that Rudi dropped out of that race before 9/11.
Tuesday, November 15th, 2005 01:03 pm (UTC)
Not really. Hillary is may be the biggest vote-getter for the Republicans one can imagine.
Tuesday, November 15th, 2005 01:53 pm (UTC)
Yeah, you are right. Thanks.
Tuesday, November 15th, 2005 03:10 pm (UTC)
The idea is quite old and aesthetically attractive :-)

On the other hand, Hillary as the next President... poor country...

> the fight would be uphill for Condy

upHill
Tuesday, November 15th, 2005 05:08 pm (UTC)
If republicans run a non-entity candidate like Condi, the base will just sit it out. And as to the appeal of Hildebeast - the media and the Hollywood will take care of that - they are in overdrive already.
Tuesday, November 15th, 2005 07:25 pm (UTC)
How did you figure out that Condi is a non-entity? Frankly, I have yet to meet a conservative or a libertarian who did not hold her in highest regard.
Tuesday, November 15th, 2005 09:41 pm (UTC)
Agreed on all counts. :-)
Wednesday, November 16th, 2005 12:52 am (UTC)
Well, do I really have to explain the difference between respectability and electability to you? Can you name a single position on a single issue that Condi can call her own? Any memorable quotation from her speeches or writings perchance?

Don't get me wrong, I think Condi is a good bureaucrat, but not much more than that. I would say she is too good to be an effective politician. This is the general problem with conservatives though: they are not ruthless enough.

The republicans must stop indulging in wishful thinking. Clittary is in for a kill!
Wednesday, November 16th, 2005 01:34 am (UTC)
Конди порвала бы Клинтониху, как тузик тряпку в дебатах. Но, к сожалению, это бы ей не помогло в выборах...
Wednesday, November 16th, 2005 01:39 am (UTC)
"do I really have to explain the difference between respectability and electability to you?"

I am not really interested. The last time I've heard the word "electability" was when it was used to explain why Democrats selected Kerry as their candidate.

Also, when you say that Condi is a "good bureaucrat, but not much more than that"... You see, the fact that you have never heard or read anything she said may not necessarily mean she had never said anything. Just an idea.
Wednesday, November 16th, 2005 03:06 am (UTC)
>You see, the fact that you have never heard or read anything she said

Consider me an average voter ;-)
Wednesday, November 16th, 2005 04:21 am (UTC)
http://washingtontimes.com/op-ed/20051103-081014-9352r.htm
Wednesday, November 16th, 2005 04:23 am (UTC)
Democrats too. And it will be so exciting! Catfight!

:-)
Wednesday, November 16th, 2005 04:29 am (UTC)
Дебаты не имеют особенного значения, как правило. Вот если бы их на ринг, вот тогда...

:-)
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