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Sunday, November 20th, 2005 05:06 pm
Was in a cafe today, heard the waiter say: "I will be back with some menu".

Normal usage to me, but a friend (lives outside of the US) was amused. Like, will she just choose a random menu? Anyway, it does seem that "some" is often taking place of "a" in spoken American English. But does it qualify as an article? I wonder if linguists have anything to say about this.
Sunday, November 20th, 2005 10:13 pm (UTC)
Elementary, my dear Watson! She'll be back with a few copies of the menu.
Monday, November 21st, 2005 01:14 am (UTC)
That would have been "some menus".

In any case, "some" is often used where "a" would do. I wonder why.
Monday, November 21st, 2005 06:20 am (UTC)
AFAIK, if a noun is countable, and therefore has a plural, it is used with "a few".

Either she has a notion of a menu as an abstract set of all dishes offered in the restaurant, so the printed copy of a subset (lunch/dinner/etc.) becomes "some menu", or she does know the difference between "a few" and "some" English.

In any case, "some" is often used where "a" would do. I wonder why.

In any case, "rain" or "snow" are often used where "precipitation" would do. I wonder why.
Monday, November 21st, 2005 07:36 pm (UTC)
Rain and snow: (1) are specifications of the more generic "precipitation"; (2) belong to the neutral style of speech, whereas "precipitation" is scientific.

By contrast, "some" is not a specification of "a", and both belong to the neutral speech style.
Monday, November 21st, 2005 08:14 pm (UTC)
Depends on how you look at it. "More than one" (some) is a specification of "(at least) one" (a).