Wednesday, November 5th, 2008 01:39 pm
I think many Americans elected BO because he is black. In the past people could have voted for a black man despite his color, and it is progress (and before that would not or could not vote for blacks etc). But when will people ignore the color altogether? That will be something.
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Wednesday, November 5th, 2008 06:43 pm (UTC)
If anyone could get elected because of being black Jesse Jackson would have had his Oval Office stint already. Obama was elected because he is not McCain and, by inference, not Bush or Palin.
Wednesday, November 5th, 2008 06:44 pm (UTC)
I did not say that he was elected because he was black. I said I think many Americans voted for him because he was black, etc.
Wednesday, November 5th, 2008 06:46 pm (UTC)
www.bpmdeejays.com/upload/hs_sal_in_Harlem_100108.mp3
Wednesday, November 5th, 2008 06:49 pm (UTC)
Каких многих американцев вы имеете в виду? Видимо, тех, кто иначе бы вовсе не пошел голосовать -- не республиканцев же. Тогда почему бы им игнорировать цвет? Дано, что выборной политикой они не интересуются; чем же еще руководствоваться?
Wednesday, November 5th, 2008 06:54 pm (UTC)
Its what I think today, too. Instead of rejecting a person right away for his skin color without considering his personality, as it was in the past, now people vote for a person because of his skin color, without considering his personality.
Wednesday, November 5th, 2008 06:59 pm (UTC)
Do you think many white Americans voted for him because he is black?
Wednesday, November 5th, 2008 07:02 pm (UTC)
Извините, Сёма, но мне вот интересно, когда люди перестанут считать что точно знают, что у других людей в головах творится. That would be something, wouldn't it?
Wednesday, November 5th, 2008 07:08 pm (UTC)
Not many. Most likely only those blacks that would otherwise not vote at all.
Wednesday, November 5th, 2008 07:17 pm (UTC)
Very likely, but people regularly vote on the basis of hairstyle. What's important is that this time around this wasn't the main distinguishing characteristic that got a president elected.
Wednesday, November 5th, 2008 08:03 pm (UTC)
His alternative was quite unfit for the purpose. I am very surprise that it was the best the republicans could do. Don't they have anybody normal (looking and speaking)?
Wednesday, November 5th, 2008 08:06 pm (UTC)
Трудно сказать, насколько many, но несомненно не совсем малая часть - иначе бы они не орали на радостях "теперь у нас чёрный президент".
Wednesday, November 5th, 2008 08:06 pm (UTC)
ууу... у них были и Ромни и Руди... и еще Маккейн выигрывал пока не позвал Сару. Республиканцы явно и открыто сдавали выборы. Всеми силами. Почему - не знаю. Но они с трудом, но добились своего. Сдали страну демократам. Очень хотелось-бы понять зачем.
Wednesday, November 5th, 2008 08:07 pm (UTC)
when will people ignore the color altogether?

Call me a pessimist, but I say never. People have been at war with each other over racial, religious, tribal, and familial differences since the dawn of man. And ever will it be until we are all completely blended. I think we're more likely to exterminate ourselves before that ever happens.
Wednesday, November 5th, 2008 08:09 pm (UTC)
They would have had Huckabee as a candidate if he had as much money as McCain during primaries. Follow the money.
Wednesday, November 5th, 2008 08:28 pm (UTC)
Almost all blacks who voted for BO, voted because he is black. They didn't give a flying you know what about his platform, etc. A lot of whites who voted for him, voted because he is black. The race was a humongous factor, no sense lying to ourselves – this was a reverse racism in action.
Wednesday, November 5th, 2008 08:43 pm (UTC)
"when will people ignore the color altogether?"

I believe yesterday was the first huge step in that direction, actually.
Edited 2008-11-05 08:44 pm (UTC)
Wednesday, November 5th, 2008 08:48 pm (UTC)
Вряд ли раньше, чем они перестанут видеть слово "точно" там, где его нет
Wednesday, November 5th, 2008 08:51 pm (UTC)
Ну смотрите, Вы уже увидели слово "точно" там где оно было. Let's go forward from here :)
Wednesday, November 5th, 2008 08:54 pm (UTC)
Увы, здесь как раз прогресса нет, одна удручающая стабильность. Я всегда старался видеть то, что есть, и именно там, где оно есть...
Wednesday, November 5th, 2008 08:57 pm (UTC)
Ну значит если убрать слово "точно" из моего начального комментария, то Вы увидите все остальные слова, я правильно понимаю?
Wednesday, November 5th, 2008 09:03 pm (UTC)
Ну значит если вы можете меня понять (убрав слово "точно"), то, получается, все-таки считаете, что знаете, что у других людей в головах, я правильно вас понимаю?
Wednesday, November 5th, 2008 09:07 pm (UTC)
:)
Ну почему же :) Я просто понимаю, что Вы утверждаете, что хотите убрать слово "точно". Я же не заявляю, что Вы делаете это утверждение потому, скажем, что у себя в голове Вы про меня думаете, что вследствие безудержного пьянства я разучился чётко формулировать свои мысли :)
Wednesday, November 5th, 2008 09:21 pm (UTC)
And here's a perfect example of a statement that's both racist and wrong.
Wednesday, November 5th, 2008 09:34 pm (UTC)
What was the meaning of miles long lines in inner city precincts? You don't understand- it's for people like me skin color doesn't matter. I would 've voted for BO if he expressed my conservative views. I resent the fact that he was elected because of his color and as Cema said, not despite.
Wednesday, November 5th, 2008 09:36 pm (UTC)
How do you know?

Blacks tend to vote Democratic. 93% of the Washington DC vote went to Obama, who is black, but then 89% went to Kerry, who is white.
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